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Can God’s existence be proven?
Or conversely, can anyone confirm that God does not exist? And if neither one or the other could be done, what about it? Today, we will talk about the introduction to the arguments for and against God’s existence and will try to answer whether and what such debates are significant.
We live in a time when not only the online world is full of various debates and arguments for and against God’s existence.
This topic has fascinated me for a long time, and it is most interesting how people have thought about it in the past and present. This is also indicated by the fact that I only recently heard the atheist Richard Dawkins say that the question of God’s existence is perhaps the most important.
When you look up the frequency of the English phrase “arguments for God,” we find that this phrase began to rise dramatically after 2001, after the attack on the New York Twin Towers.
It reached its peak of use in 2010, related to the onset and zenith of the so-called New atheism (dose 177). Although its use has declined, it has increased slightly in recent years. Anyway, it is a topic not only of cultural and religious interest but also of academic interest.
Many faculties worldwide have courses devoted to the history and philosophy of religion, which are directly related to this. For example, you can enroll in studies on the religious philosophy of David Hume, on God, the cell, and the universe, or on proving God’s existence.
“If only it were that easy.”
So today’s topic is arguing for and against God’s existence—first, a little personal. When I began to doubt God’s presence sometime in my younger, prettier but less educated age, I decided to ask. I didn’t look as sophisticated as Socrates with my questions, but rather like the Little Prince visiting different planets.
I thought he was going to break his stick over me, if not his guitar, but his answer was probably more surprising to me than my question was to him. He answered, “I wish it were that easy.” After that, he talked a little more and gave me some more specific reasons, but his intellectual modesty was quite apparent to me, and I appreciated that.
What is the goal?
First, I think it is perfect to ask at the beginning what the goal of all arguments for God’s existence should be. Let’s start with the obvious thing – ideas don’t have plans, but people do. And different people may have other projects.
But mostly today, supporters or users of these arguments do not see it as having a particular superpower, which is to convince someone definitively. And that, for these two reasons.
First, these arguments have little logical force in themselves. This is because the strength of their conclusion depends on the truth of the statements on which they are based. This means that they can be questioned, and so often, because of reasonable objections, these statements and the conclusion of the argument will not be sure.
Instead, we will always have fun here and think about probabilities. But that’s okay because our whole life is about choosing between options that are likely to be true. And that’s why these arguments are not detached from ordinary life, but rather our everyday life from these arguments.
Second, these arguments aren’t about instantly converting others to the opposite view because our psychology, philosophy, and life need to be revised. Even if the opinions pointed toward a particular, very probable conclusion, it would be another thing to be convinced by it logically and psychologically and to change our thinking and behavior.
As a recent example, we can take the many arguments about COVID-19 and vaccination. Although clinical studies show precise results, many not only did not accept them but thought and behaved as if these results were exactly the opposite. In other words, we can always find some excuse for not accepting certain conclusions – and it is often that it makes life more comfortable for us or that we will belong to a particular group whose identity we want to adopt.
That is, we all have our preferences and prejudices. And not only our conspiring fellow citizens but also us, and we have to admit it. As Richard Feynman said, it is essential not to be fooled; the easiest person to fool is ourselves.
Another and sometimes overlapping example is precisely conspiracy theories – no matter what good argument we come up with against them, experienced conspirators have built their own, so to speak, immunization strategies, thanks to which they can never be refuted. Not because they are correct but because they do not play fair and move their logical pieces differently than the rules allow.
But it’s not just about conspirators. We do not operate in such a way that we automatically accept the opposite conclusion if some argument points to it. Or perhaps more precisely, it works for less essential things that can be quickly searched on Google.
However, the more critical and deeply embedded our beliefs are in our worldviews, the longer, at least typically, such a conversion will take. And with worldviews, it certainly applies to both sides. So, you cannot expect any instant transformation from the arguments. And if so, what significance can these discussions have?
Benefit of discussion
So, must the goal in such vital debates as the existence of God be a complete worldview conversion? To ask such a question is to answer it. We all know it doesn’t work that way. But that doesn’t mean that discussing essential things in the universe, including God’s existence, doesn’t have its meaning. Their contribution can take many forms.
For the first time, we can learn something new. It can be new knowledge I learned during the debate or a new perspective I have never had before. Or they can be virtues that we can cultivate in this way – we can learn to listen, formulate our arguments, make reactions, not be unnecessarily nervous or angry, represent the arguments of the other side truthfully if not even more strongly, and thus be an example to all listening.
Moreover, a good argument could be made that such knowledge and moral contribution is often much better than convincing someone or winning a debate.
In this sense, even unsuccessful argumentation, which would not lead to any worldview conversion, has a great potential to be successful in these other aspects. If we summarize it in slightly different words – even an overall flawed argument can have a few good observations hidden in it, and those alone can be worth it.
It also improves our argumentative and personal qualities, including knowledge and epistemic humility. Now, let’s start with one fundamental question – whether the question of God’s existence can be solved with the help of science.
Is it a scientific or a philosophical question?
Can science investigate God? This, of course, depends on whether the scientific methods could test God’s existence. And that relies mainly on whether the so-called methodological naturalism – that is, the fact that science should deal only with natural causes – is how science should and can work.
That deserves a separate dose. But opinions on this are also divided – whether among scientists or philosophers, as well as among believers and non-believers. This is not a meaningless question; on the contrary, it is essential, but there are specific problems with it.
I want to take advantage of this question because it’s crucial. However, it does not have only one solution. Some either deny that science can arbitrarily test God and his activities. First, God is not part of this world in the sense that all other physical objects are part of it.
It is not only a physical object but a mind, which is supposed to be (among other things) omniscient and all-loving. And so, even if we could want to test her, it might be against her will and plans. And it could be as laughable from a broader perspective as if ants wanted to start scientifically testing the existence of some superintelligence in the universe.
Others would argue just the opposite – that we see from the nature of our universe that the universe had its Creator. Some believers claim that God’s activity can be seen indirectly in specific biological structures, in the setting of physical constants and the like.
Others, on the other hand, may perceive such empirical observations oppositely – they say that God’s absence can also be seen in tests of the effectiveness of prayer or the well-known objection of why God does not let amputated limbs grow back.
And yet it is true that many can come up with certain domains where God can be tested, so to speak (setting physical constants) but not in others (effectiveness of prayers for healing). But everyone has answers to these objections and counter-objections, and then there is the question of whether such a selective position is consistent.
One of the popular positions, probably since the time of Newton, is that God works through the natural order. This view has existed since at least the Middle Ages and later reformulated from the time of Descartes and Newton that God works through natural laws.
However, it differs in exactly what way, but we will not go into this adventure hole now. But if God is the first cause and works through laws that he will either not break or only very, very exceptionally, how exactly do we test such a view?
I’m not saying there aren’t different, even creative, answers to this; I’m just pointing out that only some positions can be easily tested, even if we had high-quality test tubes ready.
However, many see this question as a philosophical one. Maybe it would be easier for us if we could test God’s existence in our laboratory, but some, or rather, many things seem impossible and perhaps never will be. And that is why many philosophers are divided on many issues.
One, albeit simplistic, view of how science developed is that many of today’s scientific disciplines were first part of philosophy. However, when sufficient progress was made in these branches, the given field separated from this philosophy and thus created a separate discipline – such as geology, biology, physics, and the like.
If so, which discipline has made sufficient progress to give a quantitative or at least qualified answer to whether God exists? However, according to many experts, nothing like that happened, so this question is still part of philosophy. This question is philosophical because there is yet to be a consensus that a specific relevant authority can resolve this dispute.
Imagine we disagree on the result of a particular football match. I claim that it was some result X and you that result Y. We are certainly not both right, but maybe we are both wrong. What to do then?
Now, it’s easy – we check the result with a particular relevant source, such as a short Google search. If we disagree on the speed of light, we’ll also check it similarly – but here’s the point: it’s not the all-knowing Google itself, but the scientific authority and consensus that we can easily find and read on Google.
But what if there is no way to verify something, or when no authority could authoritatively and qualifiedly decide this for us? What if there is no consensus that it can be verified, or when there are arguments whose conclusions come to different or even opposite conclusions?
Such a situation is a reasonable assumption that in such a situation, we will still be talking about philosophy and philosophical reasoning. Although it may seem very improbable to some, we may someday come to a position where the majority of philosophers and scientists will agree that the question of God’s existence is, for example, a question of physics or – since we are probably talking about the distant future – let’s say some scientific discipline that does not yet exist at all.
Arguments that God’s existence has and can be tested by scientific fact exist and are much more sophisticated than it might seem from Dawkins’s above statement. But this is still a statement with its problems and is only generally accepted by some scientists and philosophers.
Today, we discussed that we can be optimistic that all these arguments, even if they are all bad, can be good for something. But I don’t want to say they are good or bad before we look at them more. And all these more concrete arguments for and against God’s existence and his attributes await us in future installments.
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The invisible world – angels …
Before humans were created, God created a beautiful and diverse world to receive them. The time of the creation of angels is not precisely expressed in the Holy Scriptures. The Holy Scriptures describe design with the statement: “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth” (Gn 1, 1). “The Confession of Faith of the Fourth Lateran Council asserts that God “at the beginning of time created from nothing at the same time both creatures, spiritual and corporeal, namely angelic and earthly: and finally human, as if common to [both], formed of spirit and flesh” (compare KKC, 327). “The existence of spiritual, angelic beings, which the Holy Scriptures usually call angels, is a truth of faith. The testimony is as clear as the unanimity of Tradition” (CCC, 328).
So, we believe that angels existed before everything we see was created and still exist today. It can be seen from God’s words to Job: “When I founded the earth, where were you then? Tell me if you are right!” Do you know who determined her dimensions back then, who accused her of stringing her up? In what are her pillars sunk, and who laid her cornerstone, when the morning stars sang in chorus, and the sons of God all rejoiced” (Job 38, 4-7). While it is true that the Holy Scriptures do not tell us everything we would like to know, the origin and function of the spirit world are shrouded in mystery. Their essence is mysterious and incomprehensible because they are purely spiritual beings. Still, it tells us what we need to know about them. Angels exist, which is a truth of faith (cf. CCC, 328). And like all facts of faith, knowledge about God’s purely spiritual creatures is also a help for us in life. Above all, the Holy Scripture testifies to this.
Angels are an integral part of the history of salvation. They are close to God, so God often appears and speaks through his angels in the Old Testament. Angels have been present since the creation of the world (Job 38:7) and throughout the entire history of salvation; from far and near, they announce and serve God’s plan in its implementation: they close the earthly paradise (Gn 3:24); they protect Lot when he and his family are taken out of Sodom (Gn 19, 1-23); they hold back Abraham’s hand (Gn 22, 11); with their service they mediate the Law (Acts 7, 53); they lead God’s people (Ex 23, 20-23); they announce births (Judges 13) and vocations (Judges 6, 11-24; Is 6, 6); they help the prophets (1 Kr 19, 5).
In the New Testament, from the incarnation to the ascension, the life of the incarnate Word is surrounded by the ministry of angels. “They serve him, especially in fulfilling his mission to save people” (KKC, 351). They will be at Christ’s return, which they announce (Acts 1, 10-11), and they will serve him at the judgment (Mt 13, 41; 24, 31; Lk 12, 8-9). “Until then, that is, until Christ’s return, the whole life of the Church benefits from the mysterious and effective help of angels” (CCC, 334). “Each believer has an angel with him as a protector and shepherd to guide him through life,” says St. Basil the Great, and thereby testifies to the belief in the guardian angel whom God attaches to every person (cf. CCC, 336). “Beware of him and listen to his voice and do not oppose him…” God says to his people, and thus to each of us (Ex 23, 21).
Belief in guardian angels was already unanimously confirmed by ancient church authors. Sv. Basil writes: “Every believer has an angel with him, like a protector and a shepherd who guides him through life.” St. Augustine emphasizes: “We consider it certain that in this world every visible creature is entrusted to an invisible power, as the Scripture itself bears witness to this many times.” We read about young Tobias, whose mother was distraught about his life when he set out on a long journey. However, old Tobias encouraged her: “Don’t worry! Our son leaves in good health and returns to us in good health. Your eyes will see him on the day he returns to you healthy… A good angel will go with him, the journey will be successful, and he will return healthy” (Tob 5, 21-22). Tobias’ wishes and trust were fulfilled beyond all expectations: “The young man left and the angel with him. The dog also ran with and accompanied them” (Tob 6, 1).
So, the angels cooperate in everything good for us (cf. CCC, 350). The beauty and joy of angels lie precisely in their serving God and man with their whole being. The Church’s Eucharistic celebration also makes the invocation of angels very clear. In the liturgy of the Byzantine rite, the priest, in the prayer of the entrance, asks for the angels to join the liturgical celebration with these words: “Sovereign, Lord and our God, you have established choirs of angels and archangels in the heavens to serve your glory. Attach a procession of holy angels to our entrance so we may serve you and praise your goodness together with them.”
From the relationship of angels to God and people, the justification of respect for angels also follows. Good angels deserve religious respect. We know that the saints worshiped the angels very much. Also of blessed memory, Pope John XXIII. He attributed every excellent suggestion, “his idea,” to his guardian angel. He was not ashamed to talk about it even in his high society, which he had reached during his long diplomatic service years. The Church has paid them this respect since ancient times. The Second Council of Nicaea (787) and the Council of Trent (1563) speak literally about this reverence. He dedicates days, holidays, and temples to them and holds their images in reverence. However, it should be remembered that we pay absolute respect in our sense only to God. The manifestation of our reverence for the Mother of God, the angels, and the saints depends on their participation in God’s goodness and leads to the worship of God himself.
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It’s about life, not the destination.
There are some things in which we will never measure up to God:
We will never equal God in the work of CREATION: we will never create a Universe out of nothing, nor can we keep it in existence as God does.
We will never equal God in LOVE: None of us will ever love every single person personally and lay down our lives for every single person personally as Jesus did: “Jesus, during his life, his agony, and his passion, knew and loved every one of us individually and gave himself up for each of us: the Son of God ‘loved me and gave himself up for me’ (Gal 2:20)” (CCC 478).
We will never equal God in HOLINESS: we are sinners, we have done evil, and it is only by God’s gift of love and forgiveness that we are allowed to think at all the life of God, which God lives in Himself, received from no one, and has never denied or lost in any way.
But there are things in which we can indeed be like God:
But that in which we can become like Him is not the GOAL and the RESULT, but the SPORT of LIFE:
We can CREATE as best we can, dedicate our whole being to it – and so BE like God!
We can LOVE as best we can, with all our being – and so BE like God!
We can choose HOLINESS as best we can, with all our being – and so BE like God!
This is the secret of deification:
We do not become like God because we CAN DO THE SAME WORKS as God,…
… but because we can DO much lesser works EQUALLY LIKE GOD – and thus BE LIKE GOD, even though we cannot do the great things God has done!
… a threefold vulnerability
FAITH IN GOD AND LOVE OF GOD = vulnerability: I begin to live according to something that does not come from me but from God. I give God power over my life and thus freely give up my previous independence in the name of love. I allow God to intervene in my life, change it, and turn it upside down (cf. St. Francis of Assisi!)…
CIRQUE = vulnerability: I open my life to other people, I give them the possibility to enter our life, we stop hiding from them, pretending… we open ourselves to them, to their lives, to their needs…
CREATORS HIP (“apostolate”) = vulnerability: we open ourselves even to people “outside” to invite them to a relationship and to share their lives with us, even though we know that many of them are evil and many times they will take advantage of this, and it will require sacrifice from us, a willingness to go through the effort, the suffering,…
And yet it is worth it because it is the PAIN OF BIRTH: “When a woman gives birth, she is despondent, for her hour has come. But as soon as she gives birth to a child, she no longer thinks of the pain for the joy that a human being has come into the world. 22 You are sad now, but I will see you again, and your heart will rejoice. And your joy no one will take from you. (Joh 16:21-22
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Saint Jerome
Saint Jerome (347-420) is a Teacher of the Church, a saint, and one of the most outstanding scholars of the Catholic Church. He translated the Holy Scriptures into Latin (Vulgate); this translation of the Bible is still used in the Catholic Church today.
He studied in Rome, worked in Trier, Germany, and later in Venice. From 370 he was a member of a group of ascetic monks, and from age 26, he traveled to the East several times, where he visited various monastic communities.
Saint Jerome had to fight all his life with laziness and partly with his explosive and choleric nature, so regarding inactivity, he was competent in informing how laziness should be highly valued.
After the consecration of St., in 385, Hieronymus temporarily settled in Bethlehem and founded three female and one male monastery. One hundred seventeen Vulgate above of Jerome’s letters have been preserved from his work, but the most important work was the translation of the Holy Scriptures from Greek and Hebrew into Latin (the aforementioned Vulgate, which was later declared an official translation by the Council of Trent 1545-1564).
In 385, he settled in Bethlehem and founded three female and one male monastery. At this time, he also wrote his famous works – 117 letters of Hieronymus have been preserved, of which 19 were addressed to his contemporary St. Augustin; his work On Excellent Men (Church) is also known.
St. Jerome always said procrastination, laziness, and anger must be decisively fought. Like St. Paul, St. Jerome also claimed that laziness is a sin against Love. Laziness is the mother of all evils because it opens the door to temptation, and by not doing what we have, we harm ourselves (we don’t use our talents) and others.
Laziness is the mother of sin. As the Book of Sirach says ( Sir 22, 1-2 ): 1 . They throw a smeared stone at the lazy man, and everyone says he is worthy of contempt. 2 . They throw dung from the oxen at the sloth; whoever touches the throw, everyone shakes their hand.
As the Book of Proverbs says ( Proverbs 21:25 ): 25 . One’s lust kills a lazy person because robots protect his hands, and the Holy Scripture praises a diligent woman ( Prov . 31,27 ) because: 27 . He follows the progress of all the work around the house and does not eat from idle bread.
St. Paul openly says, in his Second Letter to the Thessalonians, that he who does not work should not eat either ( 2 Thess . 3:10-12 ): 10 . After all, even when we were with you, we commanded you this: He who does not want to work, let him not eat either. 11 . For we hear that some among you are living disorderly, doing nothing but chasing after useless things. 12 . Thus, we command and call upon them in the Lord Jesus Christ to work peacefully and thus eat their bread.
In one of his letters, St. Jerome wrote: “ Anyone who is inactive becomes a prey to vain desires. In Egypt, the monks in the monasteries had a rule that they would not accept anyone unwilling to work. Work is necessary to support the body, especially the soul. ” If we are busy doing good, then we are less susceptible to bad temptations, ” states another of his thoughts, St. Hieronymus.
Like St. Jerome, other saints encourage a determined fight against laziness. 9 points can help us in the battle against laziness:
1. Setting clear and realistic goals and priorities. _ St. Augustine of Hippie urges us to set accurate daily, weekly, annual, and lifelong dreams. We must try to fulfill as many of these goals as possible.
2. In the fight against laziness, proceed with successive steps. St. Francis of Assisi recommends dividing each task into smaller, partial units and solving them gradually.
3. Stay disciplined. Holy Mother Teresa of Calcutta states that if we want the lamp to burn continuously, we must pour oil into it. We must not neglect our duties; we must fulfill them with discipline.
4. Let’s be persistent and patient. In the fight against temptations and laziness, there is no need to give up if we partially fail. Saint Francis de Sales encourages us not to be discouraged even when we die. You don’t have to give up and keep going until you reach your goal.
5. Don’t get distracted. Saint John Paul II. states that if we are delighted within ourselves, we will not succeed. If we eliminate distractions within ourselves, our effectiveness will increase substantially.
6. Do not overload yourself unnecessarily. St. Augustine says that if we take too much work on our shoulders, our work will not be productive. It’s better to do one thing right than ten things wrong.
7. Generosity to others. St. Teresa of Avila says that perfect love is carried in the sign of love for neighbors, while our person is relegated to the background. When we think less about ourselves and more about our loved ones, it moves us to action and overcomes our spiritual laziness.
8. Work with love. As Saint Francis de Sales says, carrying out all activities with love in the heart is necessary. We don’t have to worry about the future if we are driven by love. Love is also a potent weapon against fear; the fear of failure is often the root of procrastination. A day not spent motivated by love is a day wasted.
9. Rest is not laziness. Rest does not mean that we do nothing; we engage in activities that require less effort. As Saint Josemaria Escrivá de Balaguer says, we should not confuse well-deserved rest with laziness. A well-deserved rest is a time when we can recharge our energy to continue with the next activity.
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The invisible world – angels …
Before humans were created, God created a beautiful and diverse world to receive them. The time of the creation of angels is not precisely expressed in the Holy Scriptures. The Holy Scriptures describe design with the statement: “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth” (Gn 1, 1). “The Confession of Faith of the Fourth Lateran Council asserts that God “at the beginning of time created from nothing at the same time both creatures, spiritual and corporeal, namely angelic and earthly: and finally human, as if common to [both], formed of spirit and flesh” (compare KKC, 327). “The existence of spiritual, angelic beings, which the Holy Scriptures usually call angels, is a truth of faith. The testimony is as clear as the unanimity of Tradition” (CCC, 328).
So, we believe that angels existed before everything we see was created and still exist today. It can be seen from God’s words to Job: “When I founded the earth, where were you then? Tell me if you are right!” Do you know who determined her dimensions back then, who accused her of stringing her up? In what are her pillars sunk, and who laid her cornerstone, when the morning stars sang in chorus, and the sons of God all rejoiced” (Job 38, 4-7). While it is true that the Holy Scriptures do not tell us everything we would like to know, the origin and function of the spirit world are shrouded in mystery. Their essence is mysterious and incomprehensible because they are purely spiritual beings. Still, it tells us what we need to know about them. Angels exist, which is a truth of faith (cf. CCC, 328). And like all facts of faith, knowledge about God’s purely spiritual creatures is also a help for us in life. Above all, the Holy Scripture testifies to this.
Angels are an integral part of the history of salvation. They are close to God, so God often appears and speaks through his angels in the Old Testament. Angels have been present since the creation of the world (Job 38:7) and throughout the entire history of salvation; from far and near, they announce and serve God’s plan in its implementation: they close the earthly paradise (Gn 3:24); they protect Lot when he and his family are taken out of Sodom (Gn 19, 1-23); they hold back Abraham’s hand (Gn 22, 11); with their service they mediate the Law (Acts 7, 53); they lead God’s people (Ex 23, 20-23); they announce births (Judges 13) and vocations (Judges 6, 11-24; Is 6, 6); they help the prophets (1 Kr 19, 5).
In the New Testament, from the incarnation to the ascension, the life of the incarnate Word is surrounded by the ministry of angels. “They serve him, especially in fulfilling his mission to save people” (KKC, 351). They will be at Christ’s return, which they announce (Acts 1, 10-11), and they will serve him at the judgment (Mt 13, 41; 24, 31; Lk 12, 8-9). “Until then, that is, until Christ’s return, the whole life of the Church benefits from the mysterious and effective help of angels” (CCC, 334). “Each believer has an angel with him as a protector and shepherd to guide him through life,” says St. Basil the Great, and thereby testifies to the belief in the guardian angel whom God attaches to every person (cf. CCC, 336). “Beware of him and listen to his voice and do not oppose him…” God says to his people, and thus to each of us (Ex 23, 21).
Belief in guardian angels was already unanimously confirmed by ancient church authors. Sv. Basil writes: “Every believer has an angel with him, like a protector and a shepherd who guides him through life.” St. Augustine emphasizes: “We consider it certain that in this world every visible creature is entrusted to an invisible power, as the Scripture itself bears witness to this many times.” We read about young Tobias; his mother was very worried about his life when he embarked on a long journey. However, old Tobias encouraged her: “Don’t worry! Our son leaves in good health and returns to us in good health. Your eyes will see him on the day he returns to you healthy… A good angel will go with him, the journey will be successful, and he will return healthy” (Tob 5, 21-22). Tobias’ wishes and trust were fulfilled beyond all expectations: “The young man left and the angel with him. The dog also ran with and accompanied them” (Tob 6, 1).
So, the angels cooperate in everything good for us (cf. CCC, 350). The beauty and joy of angels lie precisely in their serving God and man with their whole being. The Church’s Eucharistic celebration also makes the invocation of angels very clear. In the liturgy of the Byzantine rite, the priest, in the prayer of the entrance, asks for the angels to join the liturgical celebration with these words: “Sovereign, Lord and our God, you have established choirs of angels and archangels in the heavens to serve your glory. Attach a procession of holy angels to our entrance so we may serve you and praise your goodness together with them.”
From the relationship of angels to God and people, the justification of respect for angels also follows. Good angels deserve religious respect. We know that the saints worshiped the angels very much. Also of blessed memory, Pope John XXIII. He attributed every excellent suggestion, “his idea,” to his guardian angel. He was not ashamed to talk about it even in his high society, which he had reached during his long diplomatic service years. The Church has paid them this respect since ancient times. The Second Council of Nicaea (787) and the Council of Trent (1563) speak literally about this reverence. He dedicates days, holidays, and temples to them and holds their images in reverence. However, it should be remembered that we pay absolute respect in our sense only to God. The manifestation of our reverence for the Mother of God, the angels, and the saints depends on their participation in God’s goodness and leads to the worship of God himself.
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We are nobody with God written off.
Today’s Sunday texts include interesting topics that touch us all. So, for example, personal vs. collective responsibility; our attitude towards the will of the Father and also the perception of the Father: either as Master-Slave or as Master-Father. It also speaks of our willingness to submit to God’s will and the humility with which we view ourselves. Further on our constant inner struggle between want and want; between what is expected of me and what I expect; between the external, distorted, and even untrue image that we create of ourselves and identify with, and the true, honest image of ourselves… and so we could go on…
Let’s start with the first, Old Testament, reading. He echoes the ranks of the Babylonian exiles and is rightly critical. “You say, the Lord does not do right!” “Is it really God who does not do right, or you presumptuous ones who criticize God himself? He who is just – he punishes iniquity and evil, but he is also generous, merciful, and forgiving – if you recognize your actions as evil, you will turn away from him and act righteously. Then he will save you, deliver you from the death that lawlessness and sin bring.”
Ezekiel points to the Lord, who is always and under all circumstances just (He and no other can be) and who again and again gives a chance to return, to convert his lost, blinded sons. A few centuries later, the Gospel speaks in the same spirit. It begins with a parable. It is perhaps worth recalling that in the preceding text, the Pharisees criticize Jesus, even more, and directly attack him; they attack him with his words taken out of context and more or less insult and belittle him. After all, nothing new with those who personify the right to their own truth, who assert themselves and make themselves visible at the expense of others; who appropriate a monopoly on God, etc. sacred theology, and in their pride and supremacy they cannot tolerate other opinions and attitudes.
The Pharisees from today’s Gospel approach Jesus with a provocative question: “by what authority do you do these things?” They allude to his scandalous behavior in the temple, to his unquestionable healings and forgiveness of sins, which after all, a “mere” person cannot do, let alone a countryman from Galilee. Jesus does not answer them, because they do not want to hear an answer anyway, but he offers them the parable of the two sons.
If sons, then they have one father. In the figurative sense of the word, it is a parable about the sons of the chosen nation, who, however, have a different, diametrically opposed, relationship to their father. That first son represents the Pharisees. Those who show off their service to God, and at the same time with their: “Yes Lord, of course, Lord, certainly Lord”, are not actually doing anything for the Father. Because they don’t love him. It does not fulfill, nor does it try to fulfill his will. It is enough for them that they feel they are perfect sons, and they don’t really care about the Father, his will. They are enough on their own. Without the Father behind whom they hide and in whose name they manipulate others.
The second son is different. Honest and straightforward. He admits “that he doesn’t want to”, but then, precisely because he cares about the Father, he regrets his refusal and goes to work in the Lord’s vineyard (which includes the whole world in the New Testament mode). The first sets himself up as a loving son, but his love is without deeds – dead; the other does not play games and gives way to his mood, and dislike, but because he loves the Father, he fulfills his wishes – out of love, not obligation. (The address of the sender is also worth noting. Jesus is talking about the Father – the first son, who at first refuses, persists in addressing the Father, while the second, insincere, says sir. This puts him in the position of a slave and not a son. Outwardly, he behaves submissively, in reality, he denies the authority of his master, not his father.)
Until then, the message of today’s gospel could be concluded with Christ’s statement: “Not everyone who calls me Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of God…” Although it was not heard today, it nevertheless describes the example from today’s gospel well.
The son who says “Yes Lord” but does not go to work in his father’s vineyard is a picture of the Pharisees of his time, who had a mouth full of Law and commandments, but did not act according to God’s will. Even today we find more of these contemporary Pharisees around us, those who resemble the first son who says the cheap thing: “Yes, Lord…” People are satisfied with themselves, who are already so perfect in their own eyes that they don’t need anything anymore to improve anything. Then there are the others, similar to the second son. Those who are able (and especially willing) to go into themselves, to realize their debt to God, to their life, and to their neighbors. They don’t want to. They don’t want to (and who would want to) – dig into their conscience, strive for change in their lives, get involved, fight with themselves…
Such an attitude is called CONVERSION, and it belongs to the most difficult and at the same time the most important attitude in the life of a Christian. Conversion = recognition of one’s weakness, sinfulness, comfort, inconsistency, arrogance, etc., etc. – and the resulting changes: work on oneself, on one’s relationship with God and the environment. It’s not just about admitting our misery, we can still do that, but drawing consequences of our weakness, laziness, and superficiality! Go to the field and work! Change that initial NO to YES. Jesus does not distinguish between those who say: “Yes, Lord” and those who admit: “I don’t want to”, but rather divide people into those who arrogantly think falsely about themselves (“I have already done enough for others, I have no sins, I have nothing to confess…”) and on those who think about themselves truthfully (God, forgive me, a sinner) and what is essential, he draws consequences of it.
It does not care what one is or what one’s position is. Whether someone is a priest or a day laborer; whether he wears a miter or a crumpled cap on his head. He doesn’t care what the rest of us do. In fact, he favors the “ordinary” ones, the ones most despise: “The tax collectors and harlots will precede you into the kingdom of God.” This gives this parable a deeper meaning. After all, who were those customs officers and harlots? Public sinners. Contempt. Condemned. Those on the fringes of “decent” society. And yet. It is they who will overtake the “righteous” – because righteous in their own eyes, into the kingdom of God. It’s them – because they don’t play for anything. That they do not lie to the Father, others, or themselves. Because they allow the Father to come into their lives and transform them. Because they are willing to go to his vineyard and work. Work primarily on yourself. On his relationship to the Father. This is exactly the reversal, the conversion,
NO to the Father who wants to say his YES to every one. Even the last one. Even the most sinful. None of us are written off by God, and also, none of us are without sin. But in contrast to those who rely on their inflated perfections, we know (and maybe encouraged by this) that publicans and harlots will precede them into the kingdom of God. It is simply about being honest and truthful with yourself and God. He overcomes himself and goes to work in the Father’s vineyard. When we go out to the Father, the Father also goes out to meet us.
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Various statements. Who do people think Jesus is yesterday today?
Have you read the book: “Who’s Who”? The names Herod, John the Baptist, Elijah, and others are not there. Are they not up to date? Sometimes someone writes rude words on this page. I accept the criticism. It’s interesting that they write it secretly. I know they don’t everyone is suitable for everyone When a person starts using his mind, he always wants to know, hear, and experience a lot.
Herod in the Gospel puts us to shame when the evangelist Luke wrote about him that he wanted to see the Lord Jesus. He said: “John rose from the dead…” (Luke 9:7). He was a ruler, and he learned about Jesus from several sources. The messengers, the people who surrounded him, took care of it, and that is why the reports about Jesus are different. Some considered the Lord Jesus to be John the Baptist, whom Herod had beheaded in prison when the daughter of his illegitimate wife Herodias asked for John’s head as a gift. Others believed that John the Baptist rose from the dead. They also considered Christ to be Elijah, who also taught the people, and he marveled at his works, which God did with his hands. Let us remember the sacrifice on the mountain, when he defeated the priests of the god Baal, who were 450, and their sacrifice was not burned, but his. Others said that Jesus was indeed a prophet. He acted prudently, and his deeds were extraordinary. He often pointed to repentance. When Herod hears all this, he does not know what to think about it. He does not believe that John rose from the dead, but when he hears about Christ as a miraculous miracle worker, when he hears more than one report about his teaching, he asks himself: Who is he, then, that I hear such talk about him?
Therefore, we should try to get to know the Lord Jesus’ teachings better, keep his commands, and find time to meet him when reading the Holy Scriptures, when celebrating the Holy Mass, and when approaching the sacraments. It is a good sign when you feel, sister, brother, that in your life the Lord Jesus is not a stranger, but that you are looking for him, that you want to meet him often, that you have something to say to him in prayer, in contemplation, in meditation, in the community, in the family… Your attitude is on the right track. Saint Vincent de Paul talks about his experience. He was already a priest when he arrived as a slave in Tunis. The ship they were sailing on was captured by pirates. He was digging irrigation canals in the August heat. He never hid the fact that he was a priest. The slave master hated him for that very reason. Vincent is once told by his fellow slave, a Frenchman: “This is real hell!” And Vincent answered him: “No! Wherever God is, there is no hell. And God is here. God knows about us.” Vincent himself did not know why the Lord God allowed this to happen to him, but he did not despair. He did not lose faith in the presence of God, not even when he was struggling with fever – malaria for three months. Even then he felt inside God. Slavery ends with escape. He does not escape alone, but with his slave master, in which, with the help of his wife, the Mohammedan Fatima, he awakens his conscience and confesses to Vincent that he too was a priest and also fell into slavery. However, he, unlike Vincent could not stand slavery, and he betrayed God. but with his slave master, in which, with the help of his wife, the Mohammedan Fatima, he awakens his conscience and confesses to Vincent that he too was a priest and also fell into slavery. However, he, unlike Vincent, could not stand slavery and betrayed God. but with his slave master, in which, with the help of his wife, the Mohammedan Fatima, he awakens his conscience and confesses to Vincent that he too was a priest and also fell into slavery. However, he, unlike Vincent, could
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